Arguing With Stupid People

I was reading the substack of Miguel Gonzales, he formerly of the Gun Free Zone blog. In the installment in question, he was relating a sort of fail, wherein he had a (I guess) “conversation” with a soul who articulated the (I guess) “thought” that Mr. Trump’s shooting in Butler PA last summer, was faked. Miguel described how that was, to be charitable, unlikely, with several failure modes which Miguel described.

His correspondent then pivoted to describe how tariffs were a horrible idea.

I could not enter my comment, so I inflict it upon you here.

“So, your corespondent was an ELEVENTY! Sharpshooter, eh? As well as an economist?

Was this soul an epidemiologist, as well?

I am reminded of the story of a fellow who, finding himself in the company of The Guru, and, seeking wisdom, inquired how The Guru achieved wisdom?

The Guru instructed the fellow, “Well, I never argue with stupid people.”

The fellow countered, “But, don’t you have an obligation to correct stupid people? Do you not have an obligation to set them straight?”

The Guru looked at him a moment, and then told him, “Of course. You are right.”

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What is the most important thing to carry with you all the time?

What is the most important thing to carry with you all the time?

A Swiss Army knife of life tools. I couldn’t narrow this down to just one so here’s some. I bet bocopro has the best answer though. Maybe others want weigh in.

Your wits, self-control, belief in God, knowledge you’ve learned from the hard lessons in life, pattern recognitions, martial arts skills, situational awareness of your surroundings, and perhaps a 1911.

Externally, I’m never without a knife of some kind and breath mints which are always in my truck.

Diversity Hire Supreme Court Justices Prove How Little They Know About Guns…..And Laws

Ketanji Brown Jackson and Elena Kagan repeatedly insisted bump stock-equipped guns can fire up to 800 rounds a second. That’s false.

The U.S. Supreme Court convened on Wednesday for oral arguments about whether the federal government was right to ban bump stocks on claims the assistive casing transforms semiautomatic rifles into machine guns.

The justices normally would use their questioning time to evaluate whether bump stocks qualify as “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger,” as defined in the 1934 National Firearms Act and Gun Control Act, which prohibits any device that results “in converting a weapon into a machinegun.”

Instead, oral arguments for Garland v. Cargill quickly devolved into confusing hypotheticals and debates that stemmed from justices’ incredibly limited understanding of how guns work.

story plus a discussion of how bump stocks work

Biden traded black support with Clyburn of the Congressional Black Caucus for Judge Brown, who couldn’t describe what a woman was, despite being one.

It’s how we got to this.

Some Things I Just Can’t Explain To The European Side Of My Family

They don’t get guns. They are afraid of them, yet they get robbed and live in one of the countries that the culture enrichers (Muslims who want free money) are invading. I don’t bother trying to explain it as they want to be morally superior, but are intellectually understated.

They live in a socialist country anyway.

They love to trash the US and pick any gun issue to pontificate. Well, there are over 300 million weapons in the hands of private citizens and over 1 trillion rounds of ammo. If there was a problem, you’d know it. The real problem is that they read the left dominated news and believe the lies. The propaganda arm of the democratic party wants to take guns away.

They also drone on constantly about free education, medical and pension. It’s free because someone who worked paid for it. They don’t like to talk about the 70% tax rate.

I’ve tried to explain this, but they only read the liberal press that also trashes the US. They got rolled over by the Nazi’s in about 6 hours because they can’t defend themselves.

So here you go because I learned from history and am not afraid to defend myself and family….

The police response is under 30 minutes. The response from a gun is instant.

It’s why the people who came our country continued to prosper. Some of the countries had their weapons confiscated. We know how that turned out. Ask the Cubans, Russians, Chinese, Cambodians, Germans in the 1930’s……It will be you next.

hat tip busted knuckles.

Once Again, Let’s Understand What’s Really Behind Banning Guns And What History Reveals What Happens When They Are

Bad guys don’t obey the law. Ban them and you don’t have to worry about gun owners. No responsible gun owner with a legally bought gun committed a crime today. Conversely, what happened in Chicago every weekend…or Baltimore or New York.

Why do more crimes happen in gun free zones?

Well, there goes the argument about muskets and they didn’t know about automatic weapons, but then the 2nd amendment is for citizens to protect themselves from the government.

Gratuitously stolen from many. Please share.

The Recent Events With Guns And Trannies

Hard to believe that the current administration and the lamestream media are pushing the socialist gun agenda and trans movement as a priority with so much else going on. Now, the trannies are shooting up everyone but no one calls for a gun ban when they shoot up the scene. They’ll never be happy. Hell, they aren’t happy with themselves given how much they are trying to become either male or female, because there are no other genders to transition to.

With all the talk of restricting guns, they should apply the same rule to everyone. Let’s look at that. Let’s also call hate crime what it is. The media fawned over the murderers this time instead of the victims. It is their narrative. I call BS.

Who should have guns?

This one is not just for the UK, but all of Europe who think they have some right to tell the USA how to live. We can mess it up without their help. They always want us to be like them, but forget we started a country to get away from what they wanted us to do.

They never get who the USA is and what we stood for when the nation was formed.

Mind your own business, or protect your citizens from the cultural enriching Muslims who are invading and ruining your countries. They are just sucking off your socialistic programs. If your citizens were armed, there would be less rapes and attacks.

We have a 2nd amendment to protect citizens from the government, and now from trannies. If you are mentally ill enough to think you aren’t what you were when born, those are the people who should be prevented from having a gun.

Just Substitute The Jab For AR-15 And This Would Be Me

I don’t have an AR, but I don’t trust politicians or governments. I’ve shot them plenty and routinely ping the center at 300 yards. They are fun.

One of the main reasons I didn’t get the jab before the facts came out about it was that they kept forcing it down our throats. That alone should have alerted people not to be a sheep and get jabbed.

There were other clues, but they are facts now (years later) why not to take either the jab or the rhetoric about Covid. The common denominator is don’t trust the government. It’s how we started this country.

Some Sanity on Gun Control

Once again, my friend George missed the boat and thinks that more gun laws would actually apply to bad guys. These laws only restrict law abiding citizens. I feel sorry for those who read the alphabet news sources of propaganda. He, like others should be better educated at this point in life on these matters.

Go down to the part about socialism and guns. Learn from history.

Better yet, read this and you will get a detailed discussion of the actual facts from both sides of the argument on what can be done.

We went to the same American History classes growing up before they re-wrote the facts.

Anyway, here goes. Steal and re-post as much as possible.

An estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of Mao’s repeated, merciless attempts to create a new “socialist” China. Anyone who got in his way was done away with—by execution, imprisonment, or forced famine. https://t.co/RBxIPnxXwm— The Daily Signal (@DailySignal) June 17, 2022

Because he took away their guns first, like Stalin, Kim, and the rest of socialist dictators who killed 100’s of millions once the people couldn’t defend themselves.

I have out-law relatives in the socialist paradise of Scandanavia, more precisely in the home of Jante’s Law (also one of the stupidest assumptions about people’s nature). I told them that if you take away guns, people will use knives. If you take away knives, they will use rocks. It progresses to sticks and anything else. Just ask Cain and Abel.

All of this happened right after I told them, but did they listen? No. Guns are bad (to liberals) because conservatives and students of history aren’t afraid of them and built the greatest country in history. They only support leftards and liars like Hillary, Obama and Pocahontas and anyone who wants to tear down America. Bashing the USA is Europe’s favorite sport.

They get to enjoy inflation and lack of prosperity now that that the current administration is screwing the world and them because of it. They are getting a good education in trickle down economics, even in their socialist paradise. It’s just that it’s like plumbing with Biden or socialism, shit flows downhill.

They say they are the happiest country only because of the lowest expectations. They need guns because of the Islamic invasion sucking dry their money that they give 70% to the their government.

My favorite is the half breed James Governor who wondered on twitter who is, why do we need a well armed country and who are we fighting. We are fighting to keep our freedom from people who want communism like James. I’m surprises that you hold a US passport but don’t understand this. Russia, China or Cuba are good places for your dream country.

A president who hated America being great

So George, would you do this?

17 Gunshots Fired In Mount Airy (Mayberry) Carjacking. I Guess It Wasn’t Barney Fife Who Only Ever Had 1 Bullet

Sheriff Andy only let Barney had one bullet because he was a nincompoop. While Mayberry is a fictional town, it actually is Mount Airy NC.

Now this:

MOUNT AIRY – A teenage suspect was badly injured in a shootout when police say he and another suspect attempted to carjack a driver in Mount Airy who was legally armed with his own weapon. 

Philadelphia Police Chief Inspector Scott Small told reporters that a 60-year-old man was getting out of his car on the 6500 block of Cherokee Street just after 8 p.m. when he was approached by two young carjackers. 

One of the suspects demanded the man’s key and pointed a gun at his face, according to police. The man then pulled out his own gun and a shootout occurred that included nearly 17 gunshots being fired.

The carjackers fled, but the man told responding officers from the Philadelphia Police Department that he had shot the armed carjacker.

More here

How #Gun #Control Is Made Simple and Explained Without Words

good-guys-gunsUPDATE: Gun ownership (as of 6/16) is at an all time high, but homicide rate is at an all time low.

Let’s explain this to Bloomberg, Holder, Rahm Emmanuel, Feinstein, the Prez.

It’s about enforcing existing laws, controlling the bad guys with guns and not banning self-defense against oppressiveness like the government and the UN.

Added bonus!  Here are the 8 myths by the gun control grabbers debunked like women who carry, more gun control stops violence, the USA should adopt the Australian model of gun control, the AR-15 is a Military grade assault rifle, anyone can buy a gun and other tripe.

I dedicate this one to idiots like Thomas Woosley (tjawoolsey@gmail.com) from the UK who needs more education but would rather use mendacious ad-hominem attacks on me instead of facts.  He clearly doesn’t understand the USA and guns and must live under a rock to make false assumptions about gun control the wanker.  He also doesn’t understand the north vs the south when trying to call people names.  At least educate yourself before putting out to the world how stupid you are.

Bonus Bonus!  Below are the myths of gun control including the gun show loophole, that there are more murders than suicides (not by a long shot) and others for idiots like Tom :

The Fastest Man With a Gun Draw Ever

AN EX-FBI AGENT WHO WAS SUPPOSEDLY TIMED IN
LESS THAN 3/100’S OF A SECOND.
THIS GUY COULD SHOOT YOU EVEN IF YOU WERE HOLDING A GUN ON HIM,
YOUR REACTION WOULD NOT BE FAST ENOUGH TO PULL TRIGGER.

NO – I MEAN YOU COULD START PULLING THE TRIGGER AS FAST AS POSSIBLE
WITH HIS GUN STILL IN THE HOLSTER AND YOU WOULD LOSE.

IMPRESSIVE STUFF

Watch the movie here, it’s unbelievable

Citizens With Guns and Concealed Carry Statistics

  • Mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, and dropped in the 2000s. Mass killings actually reached their peak in 1929. (According to Grant Duwe, criminologist with the MinnesotaDepartment of Corrections.)

  • “States that allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns enjoy a 60 percent decrease in multiple-victim public shootings and a 78 percent decrease in victims per attack.” John Lott, Jr. and Bill Landes, “More Guns, Less Crime.”

  • “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”– John Lott, Jr. Co-author with Bill Landes of “More Guns, Less Crime.”

  • “Until the Newtown horror, the three worst K–12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany.” [John Fund, NRO. “The Facts About Mass Shootings.”]

  • Total violent crime from 1973 to 2009 decreased 65%, or is about one-third as high. (Bureau of Justice Statistics)

  • The U.S. murder rate decreased 8.1% between 2008 and 2009, and has fallen every year since 2006. (Bureau of Justice Statistics, based on FBI data).

  • The United States ranks 24th in the world in terms of its murder rate. It also has the most highly armed civilian population.

  • “International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. There is a compound assertion that (a) guns are uniquely available in the United States compared with other modern developed nations, which is why (b) the United States has by far the highest murder rate. Though these assertions have been endlessly repeated, statement (b) is, in fact, false and statement (a) is substantially so.” (Kates & Mauser, Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, Vol. 30, No. 2)

  • “The political causation is that nations which have violence problems tend to adopt severe gun controls, but these do not reduce violence, which is determined by basic sociocultural and economic factors.” [Then why does Luxemburg have nine times the murder rate of Germany?] (Kates & Mauser,Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, Vol. 30, No. 2)

  • “The Middle Ages were a time of notoriously brutal and endemic warfare. They also experienced rates of ordinary murder almost double the highest recorded U.S. murder rate. But Middle Age homicide “cannot be explained in terms of the availability of firearms, which had not yet been invented.” (Kates & Mauser, Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, Vol. 30, No. 2)

  • The odds of being in a victim of a mass shooting are far less than that of being struck by lightning.

Gun Control and Our Constitutional Rights, Once Politicians Get Their Foot In the Door…It is the Beginning of the End of Our Rights

My deepest sympathy goes out to the families in Colorado.  The killer was an idiot, but if we didn’t have guns he would have found another way to do what he did.  He was evil and had his mind made up already.  I am not afraid to call evil what it is and history shows they will do what they do with whatever tool they can find.  People blow themselves up in the middle east which he may have done the same thing last week.  Booby trapping his apartment showed he thought he was going to die anyway.

THE POINT OF THIS POST

What galls me is the politicizing of this tragedy by some who have an agenda.   I do not wish to get into left vs. right on this discussion as it is about protecting our constitutional rights.  Once they take one away, they can take any or all of them with precedent

I disagree with  Mayor Bloomberg, Attorney General Holder, and those who are using this event in order to get rid of our 2nd amendment rights, and we know who they all are.  Here are some sentiments from others who agree on the T shirt below. The box is the IQ level of those who think gun control works and would have stopped this madman.  Even the UN is trying to take away our right to bear arms.

Steve Chapman discusses it further here:

When someone is ill or anxious to avoid illness, he may be open to any possible treatments. That’s why quack remedies, untested formulas and obvious placebos often find takers. When a mass shooting occurs, the urge to find a cure is powerful. As a rule, though, those that emerge are sugar pills.

A nation with very few guns, exceedingly tight firearms restrictions and little interest in such weaponry would not experience these atrocities as often as ours does. But in a society with hundreds of millions of guns and huge demand for them, as well as high rates of violent crime of all sorts, the challenge borders on the insurmountable.

The tactics of the alleged killer in this case serve gun control supporters as a roadmap to what should be done. He had an AR-15 “assault weapon,” proving we should prohibit these guns. He had a magazine that can hold 100 cartridges, dramatizing the need to restrict magazine capacity. He bought some 6,000 rounds over the Internet, suggesting that the government should outlaw large purchases or monitor anyone who makes them.

All these conclusions sound perfectly plausible. And none of them offers any prospect of averting the next massacre.

Take the danger posed by “assault weapons.” It turns out the one recovered in Aurora, Colo., might have been illegal under the federal ban that was in effect from 1994 to 2004. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., calls for reviving that law on the ground that “these are weapons that you are only going to be using to kill a lot of people in close combat.”

What she and many others don’t realize is that “assault weapons” are functionally indistinguishable from ordinary semi-automatic hunting rifles. They don’t fire more rapidly, they don’t deliver more lethal rounds, and they don’t “spray” bullets. They only look like military arms.

The features that disqualified a gun under the federal ban were ones that didn’t affect destructiveness, such as pistol grips and bayonet mounts. If accused killer James Holmes had been prevented from buying this gun, he could have found plenty of others that would have served his purpose just as well.

Almost everyone who buys an AR-15 uses it to hunt small game or perforate targets. The number of customers who obtain guns like this only “to kill a lot of people in close combat” is just slightly above zero — a market that would be far too small to induce a company to make them.

Holmes reportedly equipped his rifle with a 100-round magazine — compared to the maximum of 10 allowed under the old federal law. But limiting magazine size would most likely be an exercise in futility.

In the first place, a halfway competent shooter can quickly replace an empty magazine with a fresh one, or else switch to another gun. (Holmes allegedly used three and had a fourth.)

The brief interruption a killer needs for reloading is helpful only if someone can seize the moment to subdue him — something more common in movies than in real life. Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck says he knows of only one mass shooting in which that happened, in 1993. In the 2011 Tucson shooting, the suspect was overcome when his gun jammed after he reloaded.

Tracking anyone who makes large ammunition purchases? David Kopel, research director at the free-market Independence Institute in Denver, points out that more than a billion rounds are sold each year in the United States — many of them in bulk by target shooters who burn through hundreds or thousands every month.

If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were to investigate each of these buyers, it would have little time to do anything else. And it would probably catch no criminals, since they would buy in smaller lots to avoid detection.

Besides, most of the rounds that Holmes allegedly bought lay idle. The quantity of ammunition he is said to have used could have been obtained in a few purchases that would set off no alarms. The rest of his fearsome stockpile had no bearing on the outcome.

Ideas like these are proposed anytime a mass shooting takes place but lately, at least, never go anywhere. Supporters take that as proof of the vast, unhealthy influence of the National Rifle Association. But it could be Americans just have no appetite for solutions that don’t solve.

How well did that work out for those countries?  Bad guys have guns and if we take them away from those who are responsible and will defend others, the bad guys have already won.   History has proven that.